:: May 2, 2006
WWDSD?: A Dye Lot Dilemma

Every knitter has had a dye lot trauma. It never struck me that fabrics have dye lots as well, and differing dye lots will be especially obvious in solid fabrics. You know, the solids that Denyse Schmidt has brought back from obscurity, the solids that define her quilts. You see what's coming? So it is that I have hit a roadblock in the Pie in the Sky quilt.

(Photo from the Denyse Schmidt Quilts book)
I got a ton of RK Kona Cotton in peacock blue from Hancock's of Paducah for the two DS quilts I was making. I had to re-cut the background squares for the Pie in the Sky blocks because the first round came out all skewed. That forced me to order another couple yards, again from Hancock's. I didn't notice the discrepancy until I had cut the borders and sewn them on. It is subtle, but really obvious when they're butted up against each other. It was hard to capture so the photo above is doctored a bit -- neither batch is really so blotchy -- but the second (bottom) batch is noticeably more grey. Sewn together, it looks like a mistake, like I'm trying to get away with something, and since I was entertaining entering this quilt into the Austin Area Quilt Guild show this fall, I want it to be as perfect as possible. Even though I would enter it into the novice category, I can just picture those quilt ladies, all white gloves and pity, shaking their heads and tsk-tsking. They may do that anyway, but I don't want it to be about something under my control!
Sigh. I considered that the problem may be due to using the wrong side, but no dice. It COULD be because I didn't pre-wash the first batch, but I'm pretty sure that I did. I wrote to HoP and they said that there are indeed different dye lots, that they don't have a way to keep track of the dye lots you have ordered, but that you can send swatches and they can try to match it.
This sucks! At least if you run out of yarn in a certain dye lot, you can beg your fellow bloggers to check their stash and give some up. The moral of the story is: if you're using lots of solids in your quilt, order a few extra yards.
So what do I do? WWDSD, ha ha? This calls for my first experiment with blogpoll.com.
OOPS! Choice "E" should read "Both C and D." I'm confusing myself as well as you. And scroll down for some photoshop mockups!
Option B:

Option C:

Option E:

Option F:

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If all else fails... bribe the judges. I think it looks fabulous whatever your decision, and if the lol's (little old ladies) tsk, come stand by me and we can make fun of their quilted garments. I'll be looking for your entry!
Posted by Rete St.Germain on May 2, 2006 10:43 PM ..................
hey kim - have you already put all the pie circles on the original blue? if not...
if you did it right you could vary the old fabric with the new fabric so that it was part of the design too - so there was the old blue and new blue alternating through the center squares. you could then back it with the new blue and it would all look like it was done on purpose -
i did something similar with a granny square crochet thing... two different yellows... so i dispersed them throughout the blanket... totally fooled the eye and it looked like it was on purpose.... otherwise i vote for F :)
Posted by lisa s on May 2, 2006 11:05 PM ..................
Lisa's idea is a good one. Another idea would be a blue monochromatic print for the border that is a similar color to the blue solid. Also, I think I might like a dark inner border like in the circles rather than a white. Whatever you choose, I'm sure it will be great. Often, the best ideas come out of a challenge like this!
Posted by Anita on May 3, 2006 9:19 AM ..................
I vote for option F, but I would like to see the small interior border be the same as the border around the pies instead of white to soften it up. It really frames the pies nicely! But if you really want to go with a blue, then I'd vote for Anita's idea of getting a subtle blue print that matches the interior blue background rather than try to fight with the dye lot issue. Either way, very cool quilt.
Posted by Tami on May 3, 2006 10:21 AM ..................
i voted "d" but wanted to comment as well. i really think keeping the same blue solid colour for the borders is key to maintaining the DS Quilts look. A thin white border to separate the two dye lots would break it up enough to fool the eye into thinking it was the same blue,while still keeping true to the original solid fabric only look. By adding a different colour border altogether, I think that it will look too "traditional quilty" (which isn't a bad thing, but would no longer have the DS aesthetic.) And I'm not too keen on a print because the rest of the quilt is solid. sorry that was a little wordy but hopefully helpful.
Posted by Sarah on May 3, 2006 4:34 PM ..................
holy moley... i have no idea. i just came to look at your plainspoken quilt for the ten billionth time, thinking i might make one. now i know that when i order my solids i better make sure they are the same lot. who knew??
ps. am i the only one that thinks a flea market fancy border would look nice?
Posted by hannah on May 3, 2006 4:35 PM ..................
I vote for not introducing another color to the border that hasn't been used already in the quilt. It feels like it loses the more graphic quality of the circles. In option B (which I voted for), what would you do for binding??
Posted by blair on May 3, 2006 4:37 PM ..................
It's OKAY in quilting if your fabrics don't match exactly. It gives it character, dimension, shading,and texture. If you study the Amish quilts (especially the vintage ones) you will discover this. And remember, THEY were the original quilt artists using solid color fabrics. All shades and tones of red, for example, used in one quilt make for a more INTERESTING quilt that just one tone of red. All quilters know that a quilt with only three colors (and no variations of the colors)makes for a boring quilt. Live dangerously and use the slightly-off blue. But I also like the idea of another narrow inner border, and possibly a print.
Posted by Shelley (Pink House) on May 4, 2006 10:28 AM ..................
Eerily I was going to say the exact same thing as Shelley above, how strange. Many Amish quilts have multiple version of the same color and they look fabulous. They were real scrap quilts, and the different version of the same color are used creatively and thus contribute to the quilt rather than distracting from it.
And yes, they were the original solid color artists.
Posted by Shelly on May 4, 2006 11:38 AM ..................
I'm with Blair, I voted for option B.
I'd also like to add that, although it seems incredible, I'd never thought of the dye lot thing for fabrics. It really does make sense though. I'm so glad you've shared this dilemma with us.
Posted by mary on May 4, 2006 1:19 PM ..................
I vote for using the fabric that you have. There are dye lots for fabrics--there is no industry that deals with dyes/colors that can match things 100% of the time. I think (in my opinion) that the judges would not fault you for having a slightly different color--but hey, I am an amateur. I think it would read as having been a dye lot issue, not a quilter issue.
I also agree with Lisa that mixing the blues would be good if the circles have not been sewn on (which I think they have been, right?
I just think leaving the circles in the open field of color like that gives it different feeling than enclosing them with a border.
Well, all the best. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
Posted by Sharon on May 4, 2006 5:58 PM ..................
I would retain the original design. It will make your quilt stand out at the show amongst all the other quilts that have the traditional border. I think the difference in dye will look less so after it is quilted. You also might try calling all the quilt shops in your area and seeing who might have a bolt of your Kona cotton color. I just purchased some Pink Kona cotton at a local shop. There were two bolts both the same color and I thought they were significantly different, sounds like it's common.
Posted by kathy on May 4, 2006 7:09 PM ..................
I voted for F, but I can appreciate the point of view of the folks who think the more "organic" look is fine. In most quilts, I'd agree, but this one is so graphic and modern, I'm torn.
Posted by rose on May 4, 2006 9:45 PM ..................
I agree with sarah, use the blue from the original design...but seperate using a thin border of another color.
Posted by mimulus on May 5, 2006 8:29 AM ..................
Am I right that those basketballs are done in a template-free random piecing technique? Have you considered doing that with the entire border? You could mix both blues you have with the black veins.I would do a black or red inner border and match the binding to whatever looked best for the inner border. Disadvantage is that the outer border would be on the bias so you would need to be very careful about wavy edges.
Posted by Denise on May 5, 2006 8:42 AM ..................
on the matter of WWDSD, I think the answer would be to leave the different blue as the border. I think F is quite nice looking but adding the border is a more traditional quilt look that departs from the DS aesthetic. give it a few days of looking at the quilt and it might grow on you. things that annoy me with my projects right after finishing them tend to diminish in importance over time.
Posted by jenny on May 6, 2006 7:09 PM ..................
Posted by Sharon on May 7, 2006 6:04 PM ..................
I've had a problem with dye lots in solid fabrics and printed ones. It sucks so I almost always buy an extra yard now for those "just in cases..."
Posted by vintage lilac on May 9, 2006 6:43 AM ..................
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